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All-Star Update: The Indians need your votes
From my email...
Your Indians are in the race, but you need to vote for them to keep them there!
The 2008 All-Star Game is in New York, and the only way to send Indians designated hitter Travis Hafner is to vote him in as the American League's first baseman. Competition is tough - Pronk and the rest of the Indians need your help!
As of today's American League ballot update, Pronk is in fifth place among designated hitters - behind Gary Sheffield of the Tigers. VOTE PRONK. Victor Martinez is in fifth place among catchers. VOTE VICTOR. Grady Sizemore is still in the running among outfielders, in eighth place. VOTE GRADY.
5th place? Are you serious? What reason would I have to vote Pronk for all-star? Have I been on Jupiter or something?
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A Study of Playoff Roster Turnover: Part I
My wife is a wonderful person. I came home from work on Friday to find her taping the Indians-Mets game for me even though I hadn't even thought to ask her to do so. The poor woman knows she's about to become a baseball widow and she's still willingly contributing to my habit.
Anyway, I was watching last night and was listening to Mark Shapiro talk to Ravech and Kruk and they were talking about just bringing in Carroll and Kobayashi and not making a splash more akin to those guys in Detroit. Mark was eloquent in his talking with Karl and the fat man about how it's rare to be able to return a team intact after a deep run into the playoffs. And it got me thinking about former division champs and how much turnover one might expect following a division championship and whether there is a rough percentage of playoff roster turnover from year to year on teams the proceed from division champ to pennant winner/world series champ. So I decided to take a look at an example from our own past, the case of turnover from playoff roster to playoff roster for the 96 and 97 Indians, where we went from division winner to pennant winner.
So let's start by taking a look at who we went to battle with in the 1996 playoffs.
1996 Indians (playoff roster vs. Baltimore in ALDS)
C Sandy Alomar
1B Julio Franco
2B Jeff Kent
3B Jim Thome
SS Omar Vizquel
LF Albert Belle
CF Kenny Lofton
RF Manny Ramirez
DH Kevin Seitzer
OF Brian Giles
IF Jose Vizcaino
IF/OF Casey Candaele
IF Nigel Wilson
C Tony Pena
SP Orel Hershiser
SP Charles Nagy
SP Jack McDowell
SP Chad Ogea
SP Dennis Martinez
CL Jose Mesa
RP Paul Assenmacher
RP Eric Plunk
RP Julian Tavarez
RP Alan Embree
RP Paul Shuey
Long story short, as everyone knows, we won the division, but fell short of the pennant to Baltimore, which almost sounds funny as I type it when I think of the shambles that that once proud franchise has fallen into.
So some changes were in order, but not totally owing to a desire by the front office. Belle was a free agent, and even if the guy was an adjective compound noun, it's safe to say that we would not have sought to dump him. Dennis Martinez was only 2 years away from retirement and was the only guy on the 25-man playoff roster to not appear in the series vs. Baltimore, so perhaps it wasn't a huge surprise to see him part ways with us.
So a huge hole in left field, and a smaller hole in the rotation. For Shapiro, that would be a small shopping list and one that likely wouldn't result in a ton of roster turnover.
Who else did we lose off of the 96 division winners? Let's have an abbreviated look at the subtraction list (off of the major league roster)
Subtractions (Starters in Bold)
Lost as Free Agents
Belle, Martinez, Pena, Nigel Wilson
Again, a limited list lost off the playoff roster with Belle the only major loss, and we had an in house replacement for Pena (Einar Diaz) and Wilson, well, does it matter? Really?
What is worth noting is that we had Giles who could have potentially stepped into Belle's spot in the field. Clearly, wholesale changes weren't required to field a very good team.
Hart did make some big changes though. Let's peruse his trades in between the 96 and 97 playoff rosters and his list of signed free agents.
Trades:
Alan Embree and Kenny Lofton to Atlanta for Marquis Grisson and David Justice
Jeff Kent, Julian Tavarez and Jose Vizcaino to San Francisco for Matt Williams
Signed as Free Agents
Mike Jackson, Pat Borders, Kevin Mitchell, Tony Fernandez, Robby Thompson
Not everyone worked out, but some certainly did and the 1997 playoff roster eventually looked like this:
1997 Indians (playoff roster vs. some team from NY, Baltimore and Florida)
C Sandy Alomar
1B Jim Thome
2B Tony Fernandez
3B Matt Williams
SS Omar Vizquel
LF Brian Giles
CF Marquis Grissom
RF Manny Ramirez
DH David Justice
OF Jeff Branson
IF Kevin Seitzer
IF/OF Bip Roberts
IF Casey Candaele (?)
C Einar Diaz or Pat Borders (?)
SP Orel Hershiser
SP Charles Nagy
SP Brian Anderson
SP Chad Ogea
SP Jaret Wright
CL Jose Mesa
RP Paul Assenmacher
RP Eric Plunk
RP Mike Jackson
RP Alvin Morman
RP Jeff Juden
My two question marks here are on Candaele and Diaz as they didn't appear in the playoffs, however, I am certain that Tony Pena did not return so my calculations would still be correct concerning the backup catcher on the playoff roster. If someone can confirm Candaele, I'd be much obliged.
Bottom line, if you calculate the turnover from one playoff roster to the next, you find that in this instance, a 48%(!) change led to the team going deeper into the playoffs and falling just short of the WS ring, 52% if Candaele wasn't on the 97 playoff roster.
In Part II of this posting, I hope to look at other squads who have followed this trend, i.e., got to a certain level of the playoffs one year, made some changes (or not) and returned and went deeper into the playoffs to see if there is any trend. Part III (comparing our own 2007 and 208 squads) could be looked at on opening day, but would definitely be more relevant if I would come back and do it once we make the playoff and set the roster for 2008.
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Your HOF Ballot
We usually do this on a yearly basis, so I'm posting the diary. Feel free to weigh in with your ballot. You know the drill, vote for as many as you feel are worthy of the hall.
The list of eligible candidates:
Bert Blyleven
Alan Trammell
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Best Tribe and LGT moments of June
It's that time again, we've ended another month and here is your opportunity to list the finest moments of the month.
Did you know that there is a minimum character limit for diary posts? I did. And yet I still tried to post a one-line diary with fewer than 300 characters. Silly me.
Wait, that still wasn't enough? How about this...blah, de-blah, de-blah.
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Just keep your eyes forward and try not to laugh
Does it seem like some of the other typical AL contenders are just having freak occurrences repeatedly knock them down this season or what?
With all of the random injuries floating around kicking the Yankees (while they're down no less), who would have possibly expected Giambi to wind up out for three weeks and possibly the season after a HR trot.
And then Sheff, who has always been something of a powder keg, totally loses his temper and chucks the shards of a bat at the ump last night.
Did Delmon Young teach you nothing Sheff? Your team was already pinched by the injury bug. How long do you think they can afford to have you out of action for? Dumb ass.
You just can't make this stuff up. Anyway, just thought I'd open a diary to for LGT'ers to post how long they think Sheff will be suspended for (if at all), and also as a place where we can list the other freak injuries of the year.
Remember, we aren't allow to laugh at our opponents over this. This would ultimately anger the baseball Gods, who would be forced to smite us for our cheek.
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I know where Pronk's MoJo Is
I realized this morning that I know where Pronk's MoJo, or Pronkness if you will, currently resides. He has clearly loaned it to LeBron for the Cavs playoff run. Pronk's slump seems to coincide with the Cavs beginning their second round series with the Nets and has continued pretty much through May.
With May closing however, an unexpected thing has happened. Because of the Pronk's great sacrifice, his MoJo and LeBron's have been combined now and each has MoJo equal to the sum of the whole. Hence in the last two games Pronk has been, mostly Pronk again, but he's still learning to handle the doubled MoJo. LeBron has had an easier adjustment to the doubling of his MoJo, since he's been carrying around Pronk's Pronkness, in addition to his inherent MoJo, for the last month.
Problem solved.
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Gutz called up
For those of us lamenting the lack of an obvious platoon partner for Trot...
Franklin Gutierrez has been recalled from Buffalo and Mike Koplove has been optioned back to make room for him on the roster.
It does not appear that Koplove had to go through waivers to return to Buffalo, a point that had been briefly mentioned.
Here's the link.
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Best Tribe and LGT Moment of May
We're winding down the month here and I wanted to go ahead and open up the Best of May thread while acknowledging that we still have a couple of games to play and countless posts to weed through before we wave so long to May.
So let's hear it LGT'ers, my people have now declared the Best of May diary open.
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Best Tribe Moment in April
I put it to you fellow LGT kinspeople. We've had a pretty good month, but what do you see as our finest moment of the month. They did something like this on XM this morning and I thought it might be fun. I'll post mine later in the thread. If this catches on, I'll do it again in May through, hopefully, October. I would propose that we expand the thread to capture the best LGT comments of April as well.
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Alternate universe ending for yesterday
So I was only following the game online and I'm happy to be contradicted here, but here goes anyway. Why not lift Victor for Shoppach going to the bottom of the 8th? With two outs in the 9th,Posada "stole" second on defensive indifference to get into scoring position. I have to wonder if the game wouldn't have ended on a Shoppach throw to second in that case. We were up 6 to 2. This seems like the time to make defensive substitutions. Maybe Posada got a great jump. Maybe Shoppach would've thrown the ball to Grady. Or maybe Shoppach would've bailed us out of that horrible, horrible ending.
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