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So, umm, hey.


EDITOR'S NOTE:  This Diary was originally posted over a year ago, on June 27, 2006.  In an otherwise bleak time, Andrew (afh4) decided it would help us comiserate to get to know each other a little better, and it added to the sense of community on the site.

Now, 15 months later, we're celebrating, and I thought it would be a good time to resuscitate the Diary and leave it open for new Comments for the next week or so.  (It's permanently linked under "Introductions" in our sidebar, but putting it back here in the Diary section will keep the Comments open longer.)  For those who have started reading and posting in the past year, if you haven't introduced yourself here yet, I hope you'll take a few minutes to do so.  What the hell, we've got three days to kill anyway.

Andrew's original note is preserved below. - [Jay]

Since the season is dead, I thought it might be an interesting to get a bit of a read on who composes this community. I know I often find myself guessing how old people are, what they do for a living, etc, when I'm reading posts.

I'm Andrew, I'm 21 and I live in the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago. I just graduated from college and I'm looking for work in the city (I've begun temping-I'm a Biology major from a good school; anybody know anyone who will hire me to do, umm, almost anything?). I grew up in rural Virginia, outside of the University of Virgina.

Since biographical info isn't all that interesting, how about a favorite Indian for everyone? Hmm-I am not ready to name any of the current Indians as my all time favorite, so I'll stick with my guy Roberto Alomar. Though hardly a "true" Indian, he was on the team when I was around 16 and really getting deep into baseball-watching a ton of games and following all aspects of the game closely. I still think he's arguably the best second basemen ever, plus he played awesomely slick defense.

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Wildly disparate ages?! - try 28!
Hello afh4,

What do you know - we're only 7 years apart!

I'm Joe, 28 years old, was a Latin major and a business minor (I know - weird combination - I had thought about becoming a priest, but changed my mind,) I proofread, edit, and revise ebooks, Word documents, etc. and also am learning more about Internet marketing, with plans to build my own online business in the near future.  I've lived in Cleveland all my life.

My favorite Indian - Omar Vizquel - his personality, his improving offense, his great defense, his willingness to do what it took to win.  I'll always remember him as one of the Indians that made the '90s great.  

I remember how sad he was after the 1997 WS meltdown - he couldn't even show up to the parade like he did after 1995, saying that "he gave everything he had for that series and needed time to get away and recover from the loss."

afh4 - still think we couldn't work in the booth together, LOL!  Nice to know you better. :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 27, 2006 2:17 AM EDT   0 recs

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-ok, the season may be dead, but we've still got the team, the game, and the fansite. in a strange way the 'lost cause' is more interesting: instead of persistently fretting about the w/l records of our nearest rivals we can take a closer look at other teams and within 'our' organization. it might sound pitiful, but i carried a near playoff-caliber anxiousness all last week in anticipation of sowers' debut.    
-i'm in the same boat as you, comrade, only i'm two years older after having bouncing around a bit (including a stop at one of them good schools). i haven't quite been 'on the ball' with the career stuff since graduation; i've been a chef for about 5 years and that's still keeping me busy (hence the irregular hours i'm keeping). i'm an architect and illustrator by training, though i may or may not pursue those disciplines professionally. do i get a white collar gig?  should i go to law school? peace corps? army? i have no bloody idea right now.          
-thanks to ryan for recomending coover's 'the universal baseball association' on this site. very imaginative guy that coover . i read his story 'the babysitter' in high school and i loved it, so when it was endorsed here i picked it right up.  
-roberto was the man. i rooted hard for herbert perry to stick with the big club in the mid 90s. sadly he was always hurt and couldn't really field a position, and he obviously didn't pan out. when i was a young  lad jon farell came to my primary school. i asked him if he knew doug jones. he replied that he did. i'll never forget that.  
-i was out of the country last season and i got basically all my indians news from justice b. hill. thank god for lgt.  

by homelytourist on Jun 27, 2006 4:54 AM EDT   0 recs

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update: i landed a white collar gig. also, sorry for all the jargon.

by homelytourist on Jul 1, 2006 6:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I'm Sean a New Zealander, just turned 40, married with 3 boys living in Auckland. Have worked in Banking, Stock Broking, Trust & Financial Services and now the Insurance industry. Lived all my life in NZ apart from 4 years living in London and travelling the world (included a tour through the SkyDome, closest I have ever got to a baseball game).

Have always been a sports freak with two over riding passions, one being Manchester United and the other the Cleveland Indians. I have no idea how or when I started following the Indians, hopefully it wasn't due to watching Charlie Sheen running out to pitch. In 1993 on my way back home to NZ I purchased a 1954 Indians replica shirt which I still have, so know I followed them at that stage.

Living in NZ there was next to no coverage of baseball apart from looking at the Tribe scores in the newspaper, so fast forward to the age of internet and the ability to follow your team whilst living down under. Started following the Tribe games on the ESPN website in 2003 and have done so ever since, plus sitting through SportsCenter to watch a 20 second clip of highlights, started following this site late last season and only recently got the courage to post amongst you knowledgeable fans. Other than the internet we get ESPN coverage of Sunday Night Baseball, Monday and the Thursday ESPN games, so it is always fingers crossed that the Tribe are scheduled to play in one of these games, seen them 3 times this season to date. Fantastic, OK the Angels game sucked.

Favourite player, probably Jim Thome and over the past 3 seasons I have always rooted for Casey Blake, might not be the worlds best, but always seems to give 110% everynight.

My dreams for the future? I can sign up for STO whilst living in NZ, our broadband gets faster (and cheaper) and I can get the MLBTV deal and my number one dream to one day go to the Jake and watch my Indians play. Oh, and Casy Blake hits a walk off home run to win the World Series!!!

Keep up the posts, I greatly enjoy the banter and the baseball education they contain for me. My wife thinks I'm mad sitting down watching a computer screen graphic, getting excited or upset (she just doesn't understand about Aaron Boone). Apologies in advance for any "down under" rubbish I might post in the future. Please bear with me.

by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 27, 2006 6:37 AM EDT   0 recs

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Hey, another Chicagoan! Though I have since moved out to the far south 'burbs where cycling routes are less dangerous. I still work downtown and can be seen wearing my Tribe gear everywhere.

My name is Ellen and I'm a forty-something out of work musician making a good living as a legal paraprofessional. I went to my first Tribe game sometime ion the late 50's. Alvin Dark was manager. I have been hooked ever since and have the emotional scars to prove it.

Good luck finding a job.

by zigsmom on Jun 27, 2006 8:17 AM EDT   0 recs

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I am living north of Boston, mid 30s, and have been following the Indians since the mid 80s. I used to played Statis Pro basbeball with one of my brothers - 120 or so games of Indians vs. Cardinals.

Favorite Indian? I don't know. Cory Snyder was my first favorite. My fantasy baseball teams are all named after Rich Yett. I liked Thome, Candiotti, Doug Jones, and Sandy Alomar a lot. Least favorite: Andy Allanson. Not as a person, I know nothing about him, just as a player.

by vaugheyj on Jun 27, 2006 9:49 AM EDT   0 recs

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What a great idea for a post.

I'm Albert, 33, and live in Columbus, Ohio.  I grew up on the near West Side of Cleveland and have been an Indians fan my whole life.  I work as an attorney specializing in securities and complex litigation.  I spent my twenties in the SF Bay Area and miss the weather and burritos.  We moved back to Ohio because we couldn't afford a house in SF, and so my kid would know her extended family.

Anyway, my favorite Indian is Sandy Alomar.  To me, he was the symbol of the revival -- the first of John Hart's All-Stars.  

Sandy was never the best player, but he was seen as the first, and the leader.  It's like Jacobs Field and the Downtown resurgence started with Sandy.  I remember working in a legal office for the summer while I was in Law School in the mid-90's, and walking from work to the baseball field, with the lights, and the cars, and the people and the excitement.  It was like Cleveland had a heart transplant.  Anyway, that's kind of what Sandy means to me.  

by nilla on Jun 27, 2006 10:28 AM EDT   0 recs

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Hi my name is Sid, I lived in Mantua Ohio, until I was 40, moved to Texas in 1986, been retired the last couple of years, play alot of golf and travel the country.
My favorite Indians were Tony Horton and Buddy Bell.  
Fan in Texas

by fanintexas on Jun 27, 2006 10:32 AM EDT   0 recs

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I'm Brad, I'm 23, I live in Hartville (just east of Akron). I have been an Indians fan since birth thanks to the guiding of my dad who grew up in Lorain. I lived in Dayton until I graduated college, got married and moved up here to pursue law school at UAkron (where I am visiting today). I love this team no matter what horrific things they do to my heart. My favorite all time Indian is Omar, he encapsulates the way the game should be played. My first favorite was Cory Snyder... My wife is a Reds fan but I am trying to win her over. This season is not helping my cause at all.
Surely we aren't this bad

by fwembt on Jun 27, 2006 10:56 AM EDT   0 recs

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Met Omar on a plane to Cleveland in 2000, and talked with him in springtraing in 2001 one of the best guys you would ever want to meet, a real down to earth guy.
Fan in Texas

by fanintexas on Jun 27, 2006 11:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I don't post, but I read all the time (big fan or yours, particularly, Andrew).  I live in Lakeview in Chicago, too.  26 years old, Philosophy/English undergrad, "Classic Works" Masters in Liberal Arts, and I share homelytourist's indecision completely.  Favorite Indian?  hmm... Maybe Lofton...  Does Shapiro count, or Boone's wife?

by kwoog on Jun 27, 2006 11:33 AM EDT   0 recs

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thanks.

I wish my screenname was just 'andrew.' Only Jay, Ryan, and a couple of others were clever enough to realize there's no reason not to just use a first name. Oh well, I'll take what I've got.

by afh4 on Jun 27, 2006 4:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I'm Erik, 33, live in Columbia, MD.  Have been a diehard ever since the year that SI picked the Indians to win the world series, you know, the one with Cory Snyder and Joe Carter on the cover.  I have two sons (5 and almost 2), who are both being groomed as the next generation of Indians fans, may they have less heartbreak and more championships to follow.  I'm a chemist for a small company.  Too bad we aren't hiring right now Andrew, I'd make sure that we interviewed a fellow tribe nut.  Favorite Indian...hmmm, I always like Travis Fryman, even though he was a transplant from the Tigers.  And I used to love to see Paul Assenmacher come out of the pen.  Current Indians... love Hafner and Sizemore, wife bought me the authentic jerseys for both of them, Hafner in gray, Sizemore in blue.
-Erik "Come on Dorn, get in front of the damn ball"

by drerikbrady on Jun 27, 2006 11:56 AM EDT   0 recs

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Jeez, how many Lakeview area Chicago cats do we have here?  I live near Belmont and Racine.  

George Vukovich all the way.  

by cheech99 on Jun 27, 2006 12:01 PM EDT   0 recs

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Oh yeah, my name's Keith.  I live at Wellington and Broadway (I know what you're thinking and let me just say it IS considered "Lakeview"!!!  That's what it says on my phone book, darn it.... not that there's anything wrong with it...)

by kwoog on Jun 27, 2006 12:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I live on Southport between Diversey and Belmont. I think I also border on "not Lakeview" (I just moved here) but it's pretty close I think.

by afh4 on Jun 27, 2006 4:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Sweet. Good to know I'm official.

by afh4 on Jun 27, 2006 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Wow, you talk about living close.  The Tex Mex skillet at Golden Apple on Southport/Wellington cured many a late night munchies need for me.  

Now I'm right next to Will's Tavern.  

by cheech99 on Jun 27, 2006 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I'm across from Athaenem and that giant church.

by afh4 on Jun 27, 2006 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Oh, no. Another Tribe fan in Chicago.

My name is Mark, born and raised in South Euclid. Been sufferin' with the Tribe for the past 45 years.

You think Pronk is popular? You should have been around for the Rock . . . "Don't Knock the Rock" . . . Rocky Colavito. I can still hear my mother (may she rest in peace) screaming at me because I wrote number 21 again on another dozen t-shirts. Remember the Rock's warm-up routine? Bat over his head, grab the end with the other hand, pull it down behind his back. He was the best.

by ploni on Jun 27, 2006 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

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Hey guys,

Great to hear a bit more about you all.

I'm Luis, 25 born and bred in London, England.  I started following the tribe in 2000 when I met my fiancee (who's from Ashtabula County) in Toronto and we caught an Indians game at the Skydome.

Thankfully, when we visit her family I get to catch a game, so I've been to the Jake about once a year since 2002.  Since around then I've become gradually more obsessed as I've actually managed to understand the game...took a few months.  This site has helped fuel it even more, so much so that my fiancee is now bored by baseball because I never shut up about it and she was quite interested in it when I met her.

Try the catch the games as much as possible, but its not easy with the time difference, so day games are my best friend; thankfully i have MLBTV so I can see how they're all doing.

I'm a law major and trying desperately to get a legal job, but hopefully one day I'll be coming to live in the states and close to the tribe with a family of my own.

I'm also football mad and for Sean's sake I will confess that I am an Arsenal fan to the core (was once heckled by an American  Man Utd fan sitting on his porch in the deepest depths of Madison, Indiana when wearing an Arsenal shirt...weird!!).

My favourite indian was initially Robbie Alomar, for the simple fact (like a kid) that he hit a homer in that game at the Skydome after having jeered by the Blue Jay fans for the whole game.  Unfortunately he was gone before I really knew the sport, so since then it's been little O because of the real love he seemed to have for the game.  From the current crop i would go with Pronk; I loved being in on the secret that he was such an underrated hitter and has a cool nickname....God I hated hearing Joe Morgan and John MIllar butcher that story!!

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Jun 27, 2006 1:04 PM EDT   0 recs

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Well since there are so many Chicago people here, I'll chime in too. I live in Edgewater (Thorndale stop on the Red line).

I'm 30, born on the East side of Cleveland but grew up on the West side, St. Ignatius class of '93.

I can't remember a time when I didn't live and die with the Tribe. My best Indians experience was probably going down to Winter Haven in '03 and meeting Shapiro.

My favorite Indian, past OR present, is and always will be the powerful and handsome CC Sabathia.

by mrich on Jun 27, 2006 1:04 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is Stuart, and I am a school teacher who came from Cleveland to Los Angeles when I was 2.  Since there were no major league teams here and my father was an Indians fan (He saw Babe Ruth play at League Park) I become one too.  My first heroes were Rocky Colavito and Sandy Koufax.  I liked the old PCL Angels of the Steve Bilko era and I also liked Bob Lemon of the Tribe.  I can remember another era when I would go to a newstand and read the Indians column of the Sporting News, or my Father would make his annual visit to Cleveland and bring back the Plain Dealer Sports Section.  I also would go to  libraries to look at the Plain Dealer. (Look how far information has come.) Other Indians I have liked include Rick Manning and Vic Davilillo, and Leon Wagner. Today I like Jason Michaels becuase I believe he works hard and may well be overacheiving for his ability, which is the way I played.

by LAIndianfan on Jun 27, 2006 1:34 PM EDT   0 recs

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Add one more for Chicago.  I'm Dan, 29, and live in Bucktown for the past 4 years after leaving Cleveland where I was born, rasied and schooled.  Favorite Indian will always be Lofton.

by dvd1204 on Jun 27, 2006 1:51 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is Eric, 34. I'm from Columbus , Ohio.  (Galena exactly) I've been a fan since I was 3, so I've seen the bad and the good and the in-between.

My favorite Indian? Andre Thornton.

by emd2k3 on Jun 27, 2006 2:28 PM EDT   0 recs

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I'm Joe, 25, and I can see the Jake light standards from my porch.  

Fave Indian on current team:  Hafner.

Least Fave of all-time:  Rocker.

by thetravishalffull on Jun 27, 2006 3:12 PM EDT   0 recs

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brad, 25, chagrin falls.
favorite indians: Fryman, Rocker, Nagy, Justice
Least favorite: Matt Williams, Sexson, Andy Allanson (cold-heartededly snubbed me for an autograph when i was like 6 like he was freakin Joe Carter or somethin)

in defense of Rocker, say what you will about his pottymouth, you can't argue with the pure intensity and emotion in which he played the game, from sprinting in from the bullpen to his enthusiasm, and best of all his detesting of new york fans (you ever meet a new york baseball fan??). unfortunately his on-field emotion probably led to his downfall

by brad on Jun 27, 2006 3:46 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name's Michael, lived in Lyndhurst and then Twinsburg until I went away for college.  Lived in Charlotte, NC for six years after graduating and then got the great idea to join the Peace Corps.  I just finished the first of my two years here in Haskovo, Bulgaria.  Looking to get my master's in International Relations after I get done here.  

This site helps keep me sane (or is it insane).  Like TribeFanInLondon, the time differance is a pain in the arse, but I did go ahead and get the MLBRadio.  I can't tell you the number of games I've fallen asleep to (around 3-4am local time).

As for favorite players - I first fell in love with the Tribe in the 80's when my dad would take me down to the Ol' Stadium.  I always liked Brook Jacoby.  During the 90's I loved watching Manny hit, Omar and Roberto field, and Thome's HR's.  Of the current crop it's tough since I haven't seen any of them play live.  From the sounds of it though, I like the hustle from Sizemore.

by mjmarble on Jun 27, 2006 6:06 PM EDT   0 recs

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I'm 25 years old, and live near Canton, Ohio. I'm a year out of grad school (Kent State), and work as an accountant in Canton.

I started following the Indians in the late 80s, the Brook Jacoby/Julio Franco/Joe Carter teams. I also went to a lot of Canton/Akron Indians games, and watched Joey Belle and Charles Nagy climb the ladder to Cleveland. I enjoyed pounding on the aluminum (yes, aluminum) bleachers at Thurman Munson Memorial Stadium, and I loved the flow of the game. Most of the rest of family are Browns fans first, but the Indians were always my favorite team.

Favorite Indian? That's a tough call. Some of favorites growing up were Doug Jones, Greg Swindell, Sandy Alomar, and Kenny Lofton.

by Ryan on Jun 27, 2006 6:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice to meet all of you! :-)
Hello everyone,

Nice to meet everyone.

All Chicago-based Tribe fans - didn't know there was so many of you.  Think you guys could put a hex or jinx on the White Sox?  :-)

Again, nice to meet all of you and keep coming back - there should be some interesting stuff to talk about, even if the Indians are out of the playoff race.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 27, 2006 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is Rob and I grew up in Bay Village (class of '66). So I'm an old fart. I attended my first game in '56 and was at the game where Herb Score got hit in the eye by Gil McDougal. I went away to college and grad school and never really came back. I've lived in Boston and Philly since. When I was a kid, Rocky was the rage and we all died when Frank Lane traded him. In the end though, I guess my favorite player was Leon [Daddy Wags] Wagner. Unfortunately, he apparently died as essentially a homeless person. I've been following the team all these years. However, during the 90s I was really working ridiculously hard and only caught two world series games (1 in '95 and 1 in '97). So, in a sense, I haven't fully enjoyed a contending season in 50 years of fandom. I made it to spring training the last 2 years and was pretty optimistic this year. Enjoy all your posts.

by CaptainPenny on Jun 27, 2006 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

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Dave here, 29, living in New York City and originally from Chagrin Falls.  My dad grew up in Euclid and is a Kent alum.  I just graduated from law school and am studying for the bar.

Favorite players - I'm just old enough to remember Mike Hargrove as a player; later it was Alex Cole, and then Charles Nagy.  I happened to be back in Cleveland visiting family when Nagy was first called up from AA.  I remember reading in the paper that they asked him if he was happy to be in Cleveland, and he replied, "I was happy to be in Akron."

by G Village on Jun 27, 2006 8:08 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is John.  I grew up in Massillon (class of 92).  I have lived in Denver since 99.  As my tagline states Mr. Snyder is my favorite.  Nagy is a close second (I talked to him for a few minutes during his playing days at a bar in Lakewood).  Seeing the 13 inning playoff win against the Orioles in 97 was my greatest thrill.  Candiotti's 1 hitter in 86 against the Yanks is a close second.  Somehow I managed to accumulate upwards of 30 thousand baseball cards in my childhood.  Does anyone want them?
Cory Snyder is my hero!!!

by crackaddictwhit on Jun 27, 2006 8:14 PM EDT   0 recs

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I'm Scott, 42, and a lifelong Indians fan from NJ. When people ask why, I say how I liked Chief Wahoo as a kid and just stuck with the team. Being an out-of state fan is a lot easier today. I only saw them when they played the yankees (and watching those many losses made me one major big yankee-hater.) I'm extremely thankful for the internet and ESPN.

Lots of favorites: Alvis, Fosse, Manning, Super Joe, Thornton, Barker, Jacoby, Nagy and Hafner. Don Hood was a special favorite (not sure why) and you can't leave Feller off any Indians list.

1997 makes me sick to this day. Jacobs Field is a thing of beauty.

by DixonCayne on Jun 27, 2006 8:31 PM EDT   0 recs

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Great idea for a post inded. Me next?  I'm Tom, screen name is just a tribute to Jhonny if that's not obvious enough already.  I'm a few days away from 33, and am a recovering Biology major who is now a pseudo-engineer.  Funny how life turns out.

I too live in Chicago, in Lincoln Square - right by the Davis Theatre if you know where that's at.  I used to live at Southport and Addison, so I guess I'm a member of the LGT Lakeview Alumni Society.

Sounds like we have got enough Chicagoins to have a LGT Pizza Feed...I'd be up for watching a game sometime/somewhere if anybody else would.

by Thommy on Jun 27, 2006 10:06 PM EDT   0 recs

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My turn, another Lincoln Square Tribe fan here.  Damen and Wilson - two or three blocks from the Davis.  Watched opening night at Gannon's, next to the Jewel on Lincoln.

Scott, 30, bartender, part-time punk rock label owner, currently sitting at number two in the garagepunk.com fantasy league.

My favorite Indian is Tom Hamilton - I grew up with him as the voice of the Columbus Clippers.  Thankfully, I managed to avoid becoming a Yankees fan!

by Scott on Jun 27, 2006 11:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Dave.  31, been in school a long time.  In Denver working for the summer, then returning to Boston for my final year of law school, then planning to move back to Denver area for good.

I haven't lived in Ohio since junior high school, but all my extended family is still there (Akron area).  My father and aunts and uncles are all Indians fan.  (My brother is a Twins fan.  I still love him.)  I've been to more games in the mistake than I have in the Jake.  Actually, I've seen the Indians play more times in Coors than in Jacobs Field.

I started following in the Snyder days as well, but there are no players I ever liked as well as Thome and Ramirez.

I still have a jersey with players name on it: Russell Branyan.  I stopped buying them after that, figured I was bad luck.

by dgcambridge on Jun 27, 2006 10:09 PM EDT   0 recs

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Born & raised in Lakewood but moved away after graduation from Mount Union in '99 to pursue a career in sports (biz side, not athlete).  Now live just north of Dallas after a 4-year stint in Tampa (god, I love that city).  Currently COO for baseball team in this area but have read the PD & ABJ online every day since I've left (god bless the internet).  Love this site -- keeps me in tune with the Tribe (all-time favs are Butler & Jacoby).  Now looking forward to Sowers' progression, a glimpse of Marte & maybe a trade in the next couple months.

by RonHoyt on Jun 27, 2006 10:23 PM EDT   0 recs

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I'll join in on the fun.  27, lived on both the East Side and West Side of Cleveland as a kid.  Just got my Ph.D. from the University of Michigan where I'll be teaching next year.  I look fondly on the majority of Indians between 1985 (when I first moved to Cleveland) and now.  I think my favorite has to have been Albert Belle.  As much of a troubled man as he is (or just plain asshole), he was the greatest person to watch at the plate.  I also liked the govenor, Jerry Browne, Carlos Baerga, Omar and Robbie, David Justice, and Manny.  Dixon Cayne, I symphatize with the 1997 pain...ugh.  

One of my favorite memories was going to a game at Municipal Stadium with my Dad September 2, 1990 (I was 11).  The Airshow was going on and we got seats on the 1B side so we could watch most of the planes while watching the game.  Dave Stieb no-hit the Indians that day, which, although the Indians lost, was amazing to watch.  Alex Cole had an almost hit in the 8th inning to break up the no-no.  Also, they were giving away free mini-boxes of frosted flakes that day, which was great for an 11-year old.

by APV on Jun 27, 2006 10:53 PM EDT   0 recs

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Hey DGCambridge,

What part of Denver?  I'm in Littleton.

Cory Snyder is my hero!!!

by crackaddictwhit on Jun 28, 2006 12:24 AM EDT   0 recs

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Living in the Park Hill area for the summer, about 8 blocks east of the zoo.

by dgcambridge on Jun 28, 2006 11:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I'm Kos, I'm 18, and I go to Purdue University (for you Chicago people, my roomate is from Burr Ridge, and I go there all the time). I'm a junior year business major, but I spend all my time watching, learning about, and enjoying sports, especially baseball. I'm big on sabermetrics, I despise the Yankees, and I'm tired of smallball, the idea of clutch players, and "winners."

I grew up in Dallas, but my father (who grew up in Cleveland) turned me into an Indians fan at a young age. I remember crying after the 1997 World Series...I was ten. I guess Omar was probably my favorite Indian growing up, but I've noticed I don't really have favorite players anymore. My favorite Indians memory is still, and probably always will be, The Comeback against Seattle.

by Kos on Jun 28, 2006 12:58 AM EDT   0 recs

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Mike, 36, state government attorney in Austin, TX. I grew up on the east side.  My favorite Indian is hometown hero Jerry Dybzinski.  Maybe I'll explain why later.

by mkwng on Jun 28, 2006 2:54 AM EDT   0 recs

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Larry and I live in Tokyo Japan where I work for one of the Hollywood studios.  A long way from Elyria, Ohio.  I went to Harvard then various places around the world, spending 10 years in LA including an MBA from UCLA.  I haven't logged on in awhile due to a hectic work schedule and a depression brought on by seeing each day's Indians' box scores.  Shocked they are playing so badly, but innured after years of fanhood.  

Favorite players?  I have a soft spot for Omar...just a joy to watch.  But the sound of certain names from the inglorious past brings a certain laughter and pain.  Jack Heideman and Eddie Leon and Chuck Hinton and Chico Samon and Tom Veryzer (my friend's favorite) and Jerry Dybzinski and Rico Carty and Tony Horton.  And who could forget Charlie Spikes, thus my moniker.  Props to Mudcat Grant, I suppose.  Terry Pluto's The Curse of Rocky Colavito is next to my bed when I need a fix.

I really appreciate the intelligent writing from Ryan and Jay and others.  It's better than you get in the newspaper.  A welcome respite from speaking Japanese for my weary brain.

BTW, if interested in the business side of a baseball team, read the annual report of the Cleveland Indians when it was a publicly traded company circa 1998.  You can find it here. It's a little tedious, but fascinating. On the SEC site. I brought it up months ago, but bears repeating.  Keep the faith.
 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1059019/0000950152-99-002807.txt

by Bogalusa Bomber on Jun 28, 2006 5:41 AM EDT   0 recs

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Hey, all.

I'm Josh ; I'm a new poster here, but regularly read the posts because they offer some baseball insight, minus much of the teeth gnashing and wailing that accompanies the other Indians forums.

I'm a lifelong Cleveland fan, growing up in Lakewood. My pops used to take me to ballgames in the 80's and early 90's as a young kid, he worked security at old Municipal. Currently live in Connecticut, where i'm in the US Navy teaching IT Security classes at the submarine base in Groton.
I feel for the guy trying to convince his wife to be a indians fan over the reds ; im trying to convicne my wife to be an indians fan over a yankee fan. (there is little worse than that) Im having an easier time convincing her to be a cavs fan, because they appear to be headed in a better direction, and that playoff series was one for the ages.

My favorite Indians player has to be Cory Snyder or Joe Carter ; I went to the stadium for "picture day" I got a picture with all the old inidans, and they were all very friendly and accomodating. It was great.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Jun 28, 2006 9:24 AM EDT   0 recs

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Paul, 29-year old who grew up on the East Side (South Euclid), then got my passport stamped to move to the West Side after graduating from University of Dayton.

Currently living in WestPark and am in sales (among other hats that I tend to wear).

Favorite all-time Indians - Tabler (met him at Little Indians Fan Club Events) and Jacoby (met him once at Tony LaRiche Chevrolet).

Favorite current Indians - Wickman (member of Wickmans' Warriors, with the T-Shirt to prove it) and the Crooked Cap (so unappreciated locally).

I was in college during the '95 and '97 Series and STILL think that this current incarnation of the Tribe will take us back there.  Maybe not in 2006, but not too far off.

by The DiaTriber on Jun 28, 2006 9:31 AM EDT   0 recs

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Huh. I am also a 29 year old alumnus of the University of Dayton. Paul, perhaps we bumped into each other sometime in class or at a party in the Ghetto.

I grew up in Parma, but ask that you don't hold that against me. I currently live in Ann Arbor, MI but am in the process of moving to rural Virginia. I am a geologist.

My favorite all-time Indian is Omar. He plays the game with such enthusiasm and almost always seems to be smiling and having fun out there. He is a joy to watch. I do like many of the current Indians, but my favorite is Sizemore. I admire and respect his constant effort, and he seems to be a level-headed guy as well.

by Jeffrey R on Jun 28, 2006 10:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Bob, 25, grew up in Rocky River and now live in DC.  My brother told me about this site, which is nice to hear from people that follow the Tribe as closly as we do.

Favorite Indians: Snyder, Jacoby, Manny, TPronk

by CorySnyder on Jun 28, 2006 9:44 AM EDT   0 recs

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Ha, it sounds like I live with Larry.  I meant to write "My name is Larry.  I live in Tokyo..."  

Where are Strunk and White when you need them?

I remember the photographs in the Plain Dealer for 10 cent beer night. Oh, I had a Plain Dealer route and I listened to Pete Franklin and the Swami "The Swami Predicts."  I felt bad for my customers that I couldn't get up earlier to get their papers to them.  Ironic because now I always get up early.

by Bogalusa Bomber on Jun 28, 2006 9:59 AM EDT   0 recs

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Here I thought you were just being clever, writing a novel about yourself while never giving away your identity.  Anyway, nice to meet you, Tokyo.

by Thommy on Jun 28, 2006 10:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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My name is Aaron, I'm a 35 year old lawyer living in Lancaster Pennsylvania.  I spent only 5 years living in the Cleveland area (lived in Mentor, worked in Painesville), but adopted the Tribe as my team.

After graduation from college in 92, my future wife and I moved to Cleveland from western PA.  It was the place where I got a job, and she worked for one of the big accounting firms downtown.  We didn't know anyone, so we just had fun exploring.  She would always have me meet her downtown for a game in the old stadium (since tickets were easy to get).  We became hooked and bought season tickets when the Jake opened the following year.  We moved to Lancaster in 1997, but our friends kept our tickets for a couple of years after that.

My best memory was in 95 when they came back from the 10-1 defecit against David Cone.  Sorrento hits the HR in the bottom of the 9th.  The stadium and the streets were just electric.

The Wife always liked Omar and Sorrento.  I was a Belle fan, because that guy was a scary good hiter.  

by Buzz on Jun 28, 2006 10:04 AM EDT   0 recs

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Sounds like we could have a fully stocked law firm.

by dgcambridge on Jun 28, 2006 11:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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i think i went to that game w/ my uncle, who insisted on leaving during the 8th... i believe jasom grimsley was the starter who was lit up for 7 or so in the first inning

by homelytourist on Jun 28, 2006 3:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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My Name is Adam, and I seem to be one of the few westerners that look here.  This post got me to sign in instead of just look.  I'm 26 Political Science Grad from Boise State, but trapped in sales, I live in Boise and have been a Tribe fan since I was about 4.  My Dad grew up in Rocky River, my Grandfather was mayor there back in the day...  Anyway I remember when I'd wear my Tribe hat around Boise and people thought it was cool that I rooted for a minor league team... (Pre Major League!)  My brothers and I all follow the tribe as close as possible, but catch very few games out here... Horray for Direct TV (still cursing the STO not available here!) and broadband. My favorite Indian is Kenny Lofton... I still recall when he resigned after the ATL trade... Made my first year of college worth while. Today I like Victor and Sizemore and CC, they play with a lot of heart; also rooting for Guthrie, saw him pitch at Stanford. Love the site and all the info.

by apatton on Jun 28, 2006 1:08 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is Dave, and I'm from Winnipeg, Canada.  I am 33 years old.

My following the Tribe dates back to when Aspromonte (briefly) managed the team, but my addiction took off when Canadian TV televised the Len Barker no-hitter against Toronto.  Naturally, I thought this meant that the Indians were a good team (I was only 10 years old at the time).

Aside from clinching a playoff spot in 1995, my greatest Indians memory has to be the "Impossible Return" as it happened on my birthday.  My favourite Indian of all time has to be Doug Jones, although I did name my puppy Toby after Toby Harrah way back when.  Of course, the Tribe traded him to Texas about a week after we acquired this dog.

This is my first post on this site.  Thank you for providing such superior information and dialogue - it makes being a Tribe fan so much more fun.

by ByrdFanofAlcatraz on Jun 28, 2006 1:34 PM EDT   0 recs

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Hi, there.  My name is Brian, a 35-year old lifelong Indians fan. I grew up in Chesterland, a little east of Cleveland.  Now I'm an actuary in Columbus, OH.

One of my first memories (of anything at all, not just baseball) is Frank Robinson hitting that HR in his first game as the manager of the Indians.

Favorite Indian?  Andre Thornton and Charles Nagy are right up there, but I think it's got to be Carlos Baerga - the young Baerga who played with passion and was in Cleveland when the long-dead corpse that was the Tribe I had known my entire life was revitalized.  And then the bastards went out on strike. 1994 would have been the season of my dreams.  I'm still a big fan, but I've never completely recovered from that strike.

by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jun 28, 2006 1:44 PM EDT   0 recs

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Hey everyone

I'm Dave, 23, live in Cleveland Heights, going to law school down the road.

Have always loved baseball, umpired youth ball in my teens and intramurals in college.

Favorite players:  CC and Wick...Charlie Nagy growing up...

by dave on Jun 28, 2006 2:36 PM EDT   0 recs

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I'm Ken.  I live in Alexandria, VA, and I've never been to Jacobs Field.  I see a lot of minor league games when the K-Tribe and the Aeros are in town.  I'm 60 years old, saw my first game in 1954, the year Willie Mays broke my heart, among many others.  Became addicted in the early '70s when you could just sprawl out in the Municipal Stadium bleachers--just you and the beer vendor--and watch the Gaylord Perry and Andre Thornton Show.  Thanks for asking, afh4.
ken from alexandria

by ken from alexandria on Jun 28, 2006 4:28 PM EDT   0 recs

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My name is Jay, I'm 36, and I've been sober for almost 11 hours now.  I'm an Akron native (Bath actually), and I'm probably the fifth most knowledgeable sports fan in my own immediate family.  I have lived in Philadelphia since coming here for college, about half my life at this point.  I'm a freelance technology and operations analyst (and occasional programmer) for a number of organizations, ranging from health care to urban development.  I also own and manage a small recording studio.

I don't know if I have a favorite player.  The childhood attachments are to Rick Manning and Andre Thornton.  Robbie Alomar probably gave me more enjoyment per-game than any other Indian I can think of.  I think of Manny the way a lot of folks here talk about Belle -- the enjoyment of a perfect machine.  I am a great admirer of Omar Vizquel as a player, in particular the way he pushed himself to improve and find new ways contribute well into his 30's.  And I'll always have some fondness for Matt Williams, in part because he seemed like such an infallible vacuum that one season, but mostly just because he pulled off the hidden-ball trick.  I have soft spots for the great unheralded Eric Plunk, and Paul Shuey, and Chad Ogea, and El Presidente of course.

Of late, I have a special enjoyment of Peralta and Martinez and Betancourt, the first players I followed closely through the minors, who have fulfilled the promise they showed then, in spades.  I know that they still feel new to a lot of folks, but I've been following them for almost six years already.  It's different.

Great moments:  It's going to be hard to top seeing the Indians tie the 1997 Division Series in Game Four, and then win it in Game Five, in person with my Dad and one of my brothers.  Screaming our heads off, with all the players and fans wearing the Thome high-socks.  Wow.  We ran through the streets around the Jake high-fiving everyone.  I remember talking to an older fan about the significance of the win -- what most of the younger fans didn't understand was that it wasn't just that we won, it was that we beat the stinkin' Yankees -- smiting a mortal enemy dating back to the great teams of the 40's and 50's.  And that was what made it really great.  You should have seen the satisfaction on this guy's face.

Another great memory is in Yankee Stadium, July 19, 2003 -- "Ryan Ludwick?  Who the hell is Ryan Ludwick?"  I met one of my brothers for the game along with my girlfriend of ten months or so who had never lived west of Philadelphia.  My brother asked her if she knew the names of any of the players, and she fairly quickly rattled off a dozen names while my brother stood there in shock.  Keep in mind, in July 2003, many lifelong Indians fans could not have named a dozen current players.  We were married by the next Opening Day.  True story -- and yeah, I know some of you guys are starting to get choked up right now.  It's okay, I won't tell anyone.

by Jay on Jun 28, 2006 6:20 PM EDT   0 recs

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I must admit Jay...had to brush away a tear just now.

11 hours! impressive, but I wouldn't overdo things...everything in moderation...sobriety included.

by DocNo on Oct 2, 2007 3:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice to meet all of the new ones, too!
Hello everyone,

It's nice to meet everyone, including the new ones who are coming out to post.  Keep it up. :-)

Kos - I know that crying feeling over the 1997 WS; I was in college at the time and my mother called me a few days after that WS ended.  It was just before my 20th birthday.  

We both started crying over that loss.  To be honest, it didn't really hit us until a few days later.  I happened to visit my parents that weekend and watched the game with them (didn't get back to college until late that night, early the next morning.)

When Renteria got that base hit, Nagy just missed getting it, and the ball went between Vizquel and Fernandez, I just sat on the couch in a daze, just in disbelief over it.  The emotion didn't come out for two more days.

Darn Mesa!  

And he has the audacity to throw at Omar for him speaking the truth?!  Jose Mesa might be my least favorite Indian for his throwing episodes at Omar.  He was good in 1995-1996; I probably could have even gotten over him blowing the 1997 WS if he hadn't tried to hurt Omar in the past few years, but trying to intentionally hurt Omar, no, he has to be my least favorite Indian of all time.  Blowing the WS just adds more "bad icing" to that cake.  

Just my 5 cents. :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Jun 28, 2006 8:47 PM EDT   0 recs

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Thommy,

Let's get back to your Chicago "pizza feed" idea.  "Pizza feed" meaning "meet up at a bar and watch the game", right?

All of the Chicagoans are either Red or Brown liners so it shouldn't be too hard.  We could meet up at the L&L on Clark and Belmont, for example, the next time the Tribe are on TV.

-Lincoln Square Scott

by Scott on Jun 29, 2006 1:03 AM EDT   0 recs

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I'd certainly be up for it, and that's exactly what I mean.  L&L would be fine, though I can't say I've been there (that I remember).  We shouldn't have to wait for a nationally televised game though, really.  A few years back, the BW3 on Lincoln was known as an Indians bar, and had most of the games on TV.  They probably still do, though I'm sure there are other places that have the baseball package as well.

If other Chicago people are interested, speak up.

by Thommy on Jun 29, 2006 6:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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I think they closed that BW3 (or at least have new owners).  

by cheech99 on Jun 29, 2006 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Went by that BW3 today...signs say "Grand Re-Opening Soon".  

How soon, I don't know.  If it's too late we can have a "Lets Go Browns" afternoon and talk about the Indians.

by Scott on Jun 30, 2006 2:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Unfortunately, I am a Buffalo Bills fan.

by afh4 on Jun 30, 2006 2:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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A Buffalo Bills fan?  Who is that?  Is that like, the Bisons?

by Scott on Jul 1, 2006 4:26 AM EDT